Fashion Girls

Review Rant

(No, I'm not going to rant about reviews of my own books.  What possible good could come of that?)

Am I the last living soul in the English-reading-and-speaking world who consumes media for plot? 

I remember, as a kid, I loved movie trailers.  Loved, loved, loved them.  And now I can't watch them, for any movie that I have an inkling that I might see, because they give away every single last plot point.  (Interestingly, for many movies, I can just close my eyes - the trailers are so fast-cut that my ears can't parse the action, and I don't learn too much that way.)

As an adult, I loved book reviews - the book review section of the Post, reviews in magazines.  They helped me to find new books to read, based on my existing likes and dislikes.  Now, I can't read them, because virtually every book review is a plot summary of the sort that would have led to grades of "F" back when we had to do book reports.  (Itzkoff, in the New York Times, reviewing the 2005 Nebula collection told the complete plot, including the ending of Ben Rosenbaum's story and then said (in effect, this is not a direct quote) - as if with glee - "I've just proven that you can't discuss SF without giving away endings."  WTF?

This morning, I picked up the newspaper, and there was a review of the new Superman movie by Stephen Hunter.  Let's face it, there isn't a lot of new character ground to cover in a Superman movie.  We know the guy.  We know his "issues."  We know the basic lay of the land.  Therefore, plot bits are especially important - they're one of the primary distinguishing characteristics between this Superman and every other one.  And, in the first five sentences of the so-called review, Hunter gives away a substantial plot device.

ARGGGGHHHHHHHHH!

It used to be safe to read the first paragraph of a so-called review, to get an idea of the merit of a work (at least, to the extent that I trust the reviewer.)  Now, apparently, that safety is gone as well.

Am I really the last person in the world to care?

Mindy, grumbling

Comments

Huh?

I read the same review. In fact, I just went back and looked at it again, literally counting the sentences until I got to #5. [I am looking at the on line version; could it be that our #5 sentences are not the same one?]

My #5 sentence refers to stopping a bullet with his eyeball. Given when I know of Superman's special powers, I would not call that a "substantial plot device." Something new for the FX team, yes.

Sentences prior to that make a joking reference to fannish speculation that Superman is gay and observes that this movie shows he is not. Also not anything on which a plot can be hung, IMHO.

I am going to guess we are not talking about the same revelation(s)?



Ah... My trigger point (pun intended) is different than yours. Before I read Hunter's review, I didn't know that anyone got shot in the eye. Now, when I go to see the movie, I'll be waiting to see Superman get shot in the eye. I'll wonder if the bullet ricochets off (like it does from his chest - the standard Man o' Steel pattern with bullets), or if it compacts and falls on the ground, or whatever...

This give-away doesn't *ruin* the movie, but it changes the way I'll watch it. I'll be waiting for something specific to happen that I otherwise wouldn't be waiting for.

I guess I'm just over-sensitive to plot reveals!

(Obviously, I am, compared to Americans as a whole - clearly, most movie viewers want to know much more about movies than I do.)
Itzkoff needs to go to some of the more literary oriented SF cons then. If all he can come up with is a plot summary of award winning SF(which often tackle pretty heavy subjects or are pretty involved adventure tales) then he really doesn't understand the Genre at all. (and if he doens't get it, how can he review it)

I mean, yeah, I could (Taking an old, but good award winner) Give away the ending of "Ringworld", or I could say it's a fantastic story of exploration on a unique artificial world with some examination of the meaning of ethics and free will.
Precisely! If a reviewer can't think of something to say about the themes (or even the *structure* of the plot), then they should get a new job.
Precisely. Totally, completely, precisely.

I went to see Superman, and the scene that was given away by the now-infamous-to-me Sentence 5 fell quite flat for me. The rest of the viewing audience loved it. (When I came home and read the full review, I was astonished at how many plot twists - full arcs along the storyline - were given away in the rest of the review. I suppose it shouldn't astonish me anymore...)
I'm right there with you. I hate having things spoiled for me. I've read several reviews of the movie, most of which mention a new plot point that deviates from canon. And then I read one that gave it away, and I was pissed. I didn't want to know that! And you're right, a lot of movie trailers basically give away the entire movie. I want to know just enough to make me want to see it, I don't want to feel like I've already seen it.
One of my friends was mentioning the same thing. He said he saw a trailer for the new Adam Sandler movie, and said he would never see it, because they launch a major spoiler.

I, on the other hand, *want* to know how things will end. I want to know what that big plot device is, so I can look for it, and try and reason out the pathways to that big plot device. I suppose it has something to do with the fact that I read mystery novels as a child, and always tried to use the clues in the book to find out who did it.
Interesting - I use the mystery analogy all the time, but in almost the opposite way that you do. It seems as if you want to "check up" on the plot-writers - make sure that they're honest in what they tell you, and you can best check by knowing the end-point before you start.

Me, I enjoy following the clues - and I feel cheated if someone tells me "Miss Scarlet did it in the conservatory with the candlestick" and then I watch as Miss Scarlet sashays toward the conservatory, and as I see the candlestick and watch her pick it up, and, and, and...

As for the Sandler movie? I know I'll sound like a terrible movie snob, but is there enough plot that the trailer *could* launch a spoiler? :-)
*laughs* I don't know, it's the one with the remote control that controls time. I thought it was a neat idea. I had a dream with it in it, before I heard of the movie. XD